Some thoughts on the Reinhart and Rogoff debate

I’ve linked to some of the debate over Reinhart and Rogoff’s suddenly suspect results on debt and economic growth but haven’t said much other than that and was happy to leave it that way. But… I’m teaching a PhD time series class this semester and we just spent about a week on identification in SVARs (structural vector autoregressions) and then a student asked me about this follow-up “time series” analysis by Deepankar Basu that tries to get at causality (i.e. whether high debt causes low growth or low growth causes high debt) and there’s also this statistical analysis by Arindrajit Dube and… damn it, I probably need to actually have a professional opinion on this whole mess now (check out Felix Salmon’s summary of Dube’s results and Justin Wolfers’s of Basu’s too).

Here’s a really short summary of Basu’s results (since that’s what my student asked about). He looks at the annual growth rate of real GDP and the annual debt/GDP ratio and tries to forecast them with past values of both variables. He finds that the growth rate of GDP seems to have predictive power for the debt/GDP ratio and that the debt/GDP ratio doesn’t have statistically significant predictability for GDP growth. Taken at face value, this would be moderately convincing. It’s a bland truism that “correlation isn’t causation,” but sequential timing can help and unless you believe that the growth rate of GDP moves down in anticipation of high future values of the debt/GDP ratio then this suggests that the low GDP growth is causing the rise in the debt/GDP ratio. It’s not hard to tell stories where that sort of anticipation happens, though, since Macro and financial variables are often forward looking: if households save in anticipation of a high debt/GDP ratio, that would cause aggregate demand to fall, causing lower GDP growth. Note that that’s more or less the story that pro-Austerity politicians and pundits have been telling (essentially Paul Krugman’s confidence fairy), and it’s completely consistent with Basu’s model and statistical results.

That’s probably worth repeating: since investors and other economic actors act try to anticipate the future state of the economy, events are as good as caused by future events all the time.

So, for that reason alone, you shouldn’t take Basu’s result at face value. There are other reasons too: the debt/GDP ratio is highly persistent and has extreme starting points (I’ll have pictures later in the post) either of these can cause problems for these test statistics (this issue is discussed in Elliott and Stock’s 1994 paper and Cavanagh, Elliott, and Stock’s 1996 paper). The same persistence issue raises statistical problems with the rest of the analysis too. There are other more conceptual problems, so you can basically ignore the Impulse Response Functions (IRFs); the idea behind presenting IRFs is to show the effect of an economic shock, but as conducted here, it doesn’t tell you any more than the tests of predictability. (It’s hard to give an accessible explanation for that. but here’s where “correlation is not causation” is somewhat helpful. The data can only tell us about correlation, and you need to have extra knowledge about the system, maybe that the data come from a controlled experiment, to infer causation from that correlation. Basu estimates correlations from the data, then tries to get the data to identify the causal structure too without making any other explicit assumptions. This task is literally impossible).

The same issues are present to a lesser extent in Dube’s analysis, but I think his main analysis (his Figure 2) is less affected by the persistence issues; the timing issues are still there, though. If you wanted to, you could probably reconcile his Figure 2 with a confidence fairy argument, meaning that it doesn’t establish causality either.

So, what would I do? Well, remember:

The combination of some data and an aching desire for an answer does not ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a given body of data. (John Tukey)

We have annual data on economic growth and debt for 20 countries; without a lot of more nuanced data and information, we’re never going to have a bulletproof analysis, so don’t hold that up as the goal. Accept that with this data set, you’re not going to disprove the confidence fairy (ironically, if you want to understand the debt/growth relationship and how it should affect policy, you’d probably want to do a deep qualitative analysis of different periods of debt, as exemplified by… Reinhart and Rogoff’s This time is different).

A first step, and I’m going to argue that for my purposes (writing a blog post) this is a sufficient step, is to look at the data. I downloaded the dataset and Herndon, Ash, and Polin’s code here, plus see their readme.txt, and generated some very basic plots. The first gallery plots the GDP growth rate over time for each country, but using line color to show the years in which debt was higher than 90% of GDP (those years are red).

And, look. For countries where the 90% threshold is exceeded, it happens at the very beginning of the sample (i.e. WWII deescalation and rebuilding) or the towards the end. For some countries (Italy and Japan for example) there’s a clear downward trend over the last 50 years; so of course if the high debt is at the end of the sample, it’s going to be correlated with lower growth. Literally nothing in these pictures makes me especially concerned about debt over 90% of GDP (obviously I’ve played around with other thresholds too and found similar results). The R code used to generate these plots is straightforward and is available here.

Remember, each plot shows annual GDP growth for the listed country, with red indicating years where the debt/GDP ratio is greater than 90%.

Now we can flip the roles of growth and debt. The next gallery plots the debt/GDP ratio for each country and uses red to indicate years where GDP growth was below 1%. The figures are below; the red line indicates the low growth periods. Unlike before, the low growth periods are scattered through the series. We also see results that are at least suggestive: for many countries (Denmark, Canada, Belgium, the US, Sweden, and others), low growth in the early 80s was followed by an increase in the debt/GDP ratio. Same thing with Sweden, Finland, and Japan in the 90s. But, again, this doesn’t disprove the confidence fairy. The R code for these plots is here as well.

But we actually can learn something new from these plots. Notice that GDP growth moves in broadly the same direction across different countries. You can see that there’s some systematic comovement in the GDP plots, and you can also see that the red lines are pretty clustered in the debt ratio graph. And, this is the key, you see clustering at the same point in time, but not at the same level of debt. If the lower level of GDP growth anticipated a higher level of debt, we’d see more red lines before the higher debt levels. Instead, we see that the red lines happen before an increase in the debt level, but it doesn’t matter whether it’s an increase to a high level of debt or to a low level of debt.

So, those are the two key things that jump out of the graphs, particularly the “All countries” panel.

  • Low growth periods happen at roughly the same time in different countries, suggesting that there’s a common element that’s at least partially responsible. The debt/GDP ratio has common patterns across countries, but at very long horizons, so it seems unlikely to be that common element.
  • The low growth periods happen before an increase in the debt/GDP ratio, but it doesn’t appear to matter whether it’s an increase to a low or high level of debt/GDP. Confidence fairy stories seem like they’d imply that low growth should happen before a change to a high level of debt/GDP and not be as likely before a change to a low level of debt/GDP, which we don’t see at all in the data.

It might be possible to formalize either of those observations into an academically rigorous identification strategy; the second bullet especially lines up with statistical tools for empirical macro, although you’d need to actually write down a model that pins down the change vs. level distinction. Right now, this is just somewhat informed speculation. Of course, since there’s been a lot of structural change in the last 70 years, if we really want to understand our policy options, it’s probably best to look in detail at the last 20 years or so and draw conclusions from that. The aggregate statistical evidence is probably best as supporting, not primary, evidence.

Please let me know when you find errors; other comments and suggestions would be great too.

Update: Further comments on identification in general here.

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